Wuxia power ranking

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Re: Wuxia power ranking

Post by Zhao Yun » May 27, 2015 at 4:36 AM

Jenxi wrote:
Zhao Yun wrote:There is a general trend of the power level tapering off in the later generations. Instead of a distillation of knowledge, there is a dilution. I guess the exception is Dongfang Bubai.
Yes, the practice of martial arts peaked, and the legendary techniques were not properly passed down through the generations. Hence the tapering off.
I would rather see it being refined over time. A good example is how the 28 Dragon Palms was distilled into 18 stances, which I venture is more efficient and probably more powerful assuming that we compare the same person with the same qi cultivation, training, constitution etc... basically every condition is constant except the moves. Who knows, it might have further refined by another enlightened person.

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Re: Wuxia power ranking

Post by Zhao Yun » May 27, 2015 at 4:37 AM

东方不败 wrote:Woot! I'm the exception!
:!: :!: :!: :o :o :o :shock: :shock: :shock:

I didn't know you are one of us! *gasp*

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Re: Wuxia power ranking

Post by Zhao Yun » May 27, 2015 at 4:41 AM

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Jenxi wrote: Yes, the practice of martial arts peaked, and the legendary techniques were not properly passed down through the generations. Hence the tapering off.
My theory is that the masters don't pass down all their techniques for fear of usurping. They keep superior skills hidden just in case. As time passes from generation to generation, well...super skills are lost as each generation is taught less and less.
but don't they worry that their techniques aren't pass on? and if they discovered new techniques won't they want it to be passed on instead of being lost? there should come a time when they know they will be surpassed and think more of preserving the techniques rather than their superiority...
I agree. It's like transferring water in a cup. You will definitely lose some when you transfer it into another cup. If you're careless, you spill some. Or you might end up pouring one cup of water into two cups. Ok, I'm not sure where my analogy is going now. But I think you get the idea. I hope.

How were those legendary persons able to attain that level of achievement then? Did they build on their predecessor's work and slowly discovered a better way to do things? Or perhaps they found a way to get the best out of the martial arts... Is there any series with an increment in the power level in later generations instead?

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Re: Wuxia power ranking

Post by Phoenix » May 29, 2015 at 4:05 AM

Zhao Yun wrote:
wind wrote:
Phoenix wrote: My theory is that the masters don't pass down all their techniques for fear of usurping. They keep superior skills hidden just in case. As time passes from generation to generation, well...super skills are lost as each generation is taught less and less.
but don't they worry that their techniques aren't pass on? and if they discovered new techniques won't they want it to be passed on instead of being lost? there should come a time when they know they will be surpassed and think more of preserving the techniques rather than their superiority...
I agree. It's like transferring water in a cup. You will definitely lose some when you transfer it into another cup. If you're careless, you spill some. Or you might end up pouring one cup of water into two cups. Ok, I'm not sure where my analogy is going now. But I think you get the idea. I hope.

How were those legendary persons able to attain that level of achievement then? Did they build on their predecessor's work and slowly discovered a better way to do things? Or perhaps they found a way to get the best out of the martial arts... Is there any series with an increment in the power level in later generations instead?
I'd like to think that most masters would want to pass on all their skills, however, reality check is a different story. Achieving the superior skills also depends on the ability of the students: innate talent, propensity for learning, perseverance, and hard work. If a master does not have a student who can inherit all the skills, then the superior skills will be lost. And there are many power-hungry people who'd do anything to gain control and power, including disabling or killing their shi-fu to get there. Hence, some masters may hold a few cards hidden as survival depends on it. Of course, there are cases where the student surpasses the master as well. But I'm just hypothesizing in general as to why the legendary techniques tapered.

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Re: Wuxia power ranking

Post by FlyingDagger » June 2, 2015 at 11:19 AM

I see it as some people having sufficient cultivation and enlightenment, hence their immense abilities. For example, Damo. He faced the wall for 9 years based on legends. Perhaps that was how he came to create the Yijin Jing. Whereas the later generations did not put in as much time in building up their cultivation, or did not have the opportunity to due to circumstances in their lives.

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Re: Wuxia power ranking

Post by Swordsman » June 25, 2015 at 10:07 PM

didn't expect my favourite character ling wu chong to be ranked so high..

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Re: Wuxia power ranking

Post by 风郎君 » June 26, 2015 at 10:02 AM

Some masters intentionally don't pass down their skills because the skill requires too much sacrifice from the practitioner, or that there's too much risk involved, and they don't want their disciple/s to risk it or sacrifice too much. Sometimes it's better to know less than more.

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Re: Wuxia power ranking

Post by Swordsman » June 26, 2015 at 10:20 PM

There is a possibility future generation surpass the past generation.

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Re: Wuxia power ranking

Post by Jenxi » July 25, 2015 at 12:10 PM

Swordsman wrote:didn't expect my favourite character ling wu chong to be ranked so high..
His abilities are pretty remarkable and it helped that he absorbed the internal energies of others too.

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Re: Wuxia power ranking

Post by Jenxi » July 25, 2015 at 12:11 PM

风郎君 wrote:Some masters intentionally don't pass down their skills because the skill requires too much sacrifice from the practitioner, or that there's too much risk involved, and they don't want their disciple/s to risk it or sacrifice too much. Sometimes it's better to know less than more.
That's an interesting way to look at it. I mean, look at Yue Buqun/Ling Pingzhi. :lol:

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